he wished we had gotten out front in libya, had taken stronger action in iran, he said we should be out front in syria, tougher on afghanistan in staying longer and also in iraq. we should be more confrontational with the russians and with the chinese. what does that mean to talk like that? >> well, i think it's actually dangerous discussion. what we need to do is to work across the board with countries in order to lower the threats of force. we always keep every option on the table. but the idea that we would get ourselves involved in more of these issues, and if you remember, chris, former secretary of defense, bob gates said that any secretary of defense or president that was prepared to start another war should have his head examined. >> i'm with him. thank you. the great madeleine albright, thank you for coming to us. let's get back to rachel. >> appreciate that. thank you. coming uch, if there's one thing that i know well from personal family experience, it's that you do not mess with nuns under any circumstances. sister simone campbell who is a nun and a speaker everyone is reall